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Interest in church-owned defibrillators varies greatly

By Julie Kay, 2theadvocate.com
August 6th, 2005

Members of Shiloh Missionary Baptist Church hope they never need it, but they have it. First Presbyterian Church also has one, but more congregations have yet to talk about it.

The item in question is an automated external defibrillator, a medical device capable of shocking the heart and restoring its rhythm after a sudden cardiac arrest.

Mary Dudley, health-care committee chairperson at Shiloh, said her church bought a defibrillator just over two years ago in order to be proactive.

"I'm a cardiac care nurse, and we have a lot of people with emergency backgrounds on the committee. We looked at the cost and we advised Rev. (Charles) Smith (the church's senior pastor). He said 'Go for it.' "

The church is no stranger to such medical emergencies. Years ago, a member in his 30s directing the church choir had a cardiac arrest. He survived, but the incident lingered with members of the committee, Dudley said.

While an Emergency Medical Services unit is within blocks of the church, she said, the committee felt that when looking at the concept of "emergency, that time is muscle."

Since having the device, the church has trained members who serve as emergency responders, making certain Sunday services are covered, and plans are in the works to train church, day-care and administrative personnel.

A physician church member oversees the defibrillator's use, and a recently ordered mount will mean the defibrillator will soon be placed in an area outside the chapel, more accessible than its current location in the church nurse's office, Dudley said.

"We hope we never have to use it," she said, in talking about the purchase, "but you're buying in the event you need it."

In First Presbyterian's case, however, interest in training on the device, which was donated to the church, has been slim, according to Marilyn Randall, director of church administration.

Randall said it is somewhat frustrating that people don't seem to be interested. But since the church has never been in a life-threatening situation that required it, "there's no real excitement about it I guess," she said.

Brad Bourgeois, sales manager for the medical-products division of Acadian Ambulance, said he'd like to see churches take a proactive stance much like the workplace, airports and other public gathering places.

Wherever people congregate, there is a potential for people to go into cardiac arrest, whether it's in the workplace, the home or the church, he said.

Life-threatening cardiac arrest happens when the heart suffers from abnormal electrical activity, losing its natural rhythm. American Heart Association figures say patients have a 90 percent chance of survival if defibrillation is administered in the first few minutes. At four minutes, Bourgeois said, brain damage is a danger.

The nation's EMS response time is between six and 12 minutes, Bourgeois said.

"Every Sunday, there are thousands of people in one little area, and you never know when you'll have a cardiac arrest," he said.

Churches are often places of shelter during storm systems, he said, again placing large numbers of people in one place.

Many churches, however, while sold on the need, are watching their bottom lines, Bourgeois said.

"Everybody wants them; it's just a matter of budgets," he said.

The units cost about $1,900 according to Bourgeois. Some churches take up a collection or a church member in the medical profession will donate one if the church budget is tight, he said.

Bourgeois said his company is just getting into the Baton Rouge market, preceded by Lafayette and Lake Charles.

Mark Olson, public information officer for EMS, said having a defibrillator is a good idea anywhere, including churches, where there are groups of people. "Basically, you could have it for 100 years and never be used or you could use it three times in a month, Olson said."

Olson said the devices are much more cost-effective and portable today. "You should have trained individuals, but it is designed for the general public to pick it up and use it."

Training is typically offered by associations such as the American Heart Association, as part of its CPR classes, he said, or may be offered by the company selling the units.

At Asbury United Methodist Church in Lafayette, church Administrator Carolyn Guilbeaux said her church opted for the units after realizing that while their 3,300-member church population was active, it was also older.

The church talked about defibrillators for about a year, she said, until it was worked into the church budget. Church staff and ushers were promptly trained on its operation and others are being trained since the church received its defibrillator a couple of months ago, she said.

"I was scared to death," she said, "but when they trained us, it was so comforting You feel very safe because it (the defibrillator) tells you what to do."

The church's only defibrillator has been placed in the church's administrative building, accessible to Sunday school classes and the sanctuary, the most populated areas of the church. "It's very visual on the wall," Guilbeaux described. There are plans to purchase more as funds become available so access is even greater, she said.

Becky Williams, director of health ministries for St. Luke's Episcopal Church in Baton Rouge, said her church does not have a defibrillator for a simple reason. The idea has yet to be fully explored, she said.

In the seven years Williams has been the church's nurse, she said, the church has called EMS out three times, mainly for fainting or irregularities associated with hypertension, but none for cardiac arrest.

Williams said she would also need to research maintenance issues, calibration, the training of personnel and how many devices would be needed.

Since devices need to be available quickly, a large church campus such as St. Luke's might need anywhere from three to five, she said.

At First United Methodist Church, it was much the same story. Senior pastor, the Rev. Chris Andrews, said while he was aware of the devices, it hasn't been explored by church leadership.

"That's not to say we won't have one or we shouldn't have one. We have a number of physicians in the congregation and we have had medical situations that have been handled and EMS has been here promptly.

"It's the kind of thing, like a fire extinguisher I guess, where you hope you have one when you need it, but we've never used it.

"On the other hand, it only takes one time," he said.

According to the 2003 Church Law and Tax Report, the purchase of a defibrillator is an issue worthy of examination by church leaders, especially in an aging U.S. population where those over the age of 60 represent the largest percentage in many congregations.

"About 25 percent of all cases of sudden cardiac arrest occur in places where people congregate, and so it is easy to see why more and more churches, charities, malls, airports and fitness centers are acquiring defibrillators," the article notes.

Michaelyn Bellelo, the school nurse at St. Aloysius School and a member of St. Aloysius Catholic Church, said she is in the process of applying for a grant offered through a division of Medtronics, a major medical supply company, that would allow the church and the school to share a defibrillator to be located in the Parish Hall, between the school and church.

School events such as Grandparents Day and ballgames as well as church events, such as weddings, where more people are in attendance, make having the device available a win-win proposition for both the school and the church, she said.

Newer technology makes it even more attractive, she said, explaining that the model she is looking at has a back-up battery "so it's meant to sit on a shelf. They've made it so simple. It even runs its own self-check. Now, will someone have to make sure it's OK? Yes."

While still working on plans regarding who would be trained, who would oversee it and other details, Bellelo said "the first step is to get one."

As for legal liability, local registered nurse and attorney Alicia Hoover said legislation introduced in 1999 clearly covers the use of defibrillators in Louisiana.

Legislative findings at the time said it was "the intent of the Legislature to encourage greater acquisition, deployment, and use of automated external defibrillators in communities throughout the state," in light of the fact that many communities, while invested in a 911 emergency response system and emergency personnel, do not have enough defibrillators.

Hoover said the stipulations are spelled out clearly and that, if followed, grants liability protection for those using the devices.

According to the statutes, there should be a licensed physician or advanced practice nurse involved in the program "to ensure compliance with the requirements for training, emergency medical service (EMS) notification, and maintenance," reporting requirements to local emergency agencies, that the AED (automated external defibrillator) be maintained and tested to manufacturer guidelines, and that expected AED users receive appropriate training.

Hoover, whose practice largely deals with medical/legal issues, said it's been her experience that a church or individual would rarely be sued for trying to help someone in an emergency situation.

"It's nice to know we have a statute," she said, however, and one that so clearly spells out its intent.

Bourgeois said today's defibrillators are very easy to operate and Acadian Ambulance trains church volunteers and staff in a 30-minute session once a device is purchased.

Both St. Luke's nurse Williams and Hoover, who have trained on the device in CPR recertification training, agreed that they are nearly foolproof. "Everywhere I travel," Williams said, "they're in the airplanes and all over the airports."

As for the church, Williams said, "Maybe this is a good time to revisit it."

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